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Wednesday, March 29, 2006

A Church of Christ Connection


This past Monday night, Nancy Grace hosted a news program on CNN Headline News concerning the latest news on the Matthew Winkler murder. Wanting to learn more about the church in which Matthew was a minister, Nancy called on Baptist minister, Tom Rukala, to appear on the show and provide some insight into Churches of Christ. Here is a portion of their exchange.

NANCY GRACE:I want to go to pastor Tom Rukala, joining us tonight, a special guest, a Baptist minister. I`ve been researching the Church of Christ. I don`t know that much about it. What can you tell me?

PASTOR TOM RUKALA, BAPTIST PASTOR: Well, the Church of Christ is a relatively
new church. It was started about 150 years ago by Alexander Campbell. And
it`s, unfortunately, a very legalistic sect, and they tend to use methods of intimidation and pressure tactics. They claim that they are the only ones going to heaven, and all other people are condemned to hell. So in case…

GRACE: Uh-oh, I`m in trouble. But I already knew that.

(LAUGHTER)

GRACE: Now, wait a minute. What more can you tell me?

RUKALA: Well, they claim that if you`re not baptized by one of their ministers, that you`re doomed to hell, even if you`re a believer in Jesus Christ, which, of course, breaks completely from the traditional Christian view that all those who call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved because we`re saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, who died for our sins and rose again. For the Church of Christ folks, that`s not enough. You
have to be a member of their narrow sect. It`s a very exclusive group. And if
you`re not a member of their sect, you`re condemned.

GRACE: You know, Pastor, you keep saying “sect.” “Sect.” You make it sound like a cult.

RUKALA: It kind of is a borderline cult, unfortunately. I don`t want to make it out to be some kind of Hare Krishna group, but it has cult-like characteristics and…

GRACE: In what sense?

RUKALA: Well, in the sense of the exclusivism, the attitude that they are the only ones who know the truth. The tactics that they use are sometimes just — not only un-biblical but unethical, and they can be very ungracious, unfortunately.

Now as a member of a Church of Christ here in Jackson, I will say that there is some truth to what Rukala is saying. (I won't get into his other factual inaccuracies.) I have encountered some people in Churches of Christ which would line up perfectly with this description. But the vast majority of Churches of Christ are not like this at all. To make a blanket statement saying that all Churches of Christ are a "kind of borderline cult," that's false and inflamitory. The fact is, there is a wide variety of opinion and practice in Churches of Christ. Since we have no governing body (thank God) we have no final arbiter of church doctrine or practice other than local church elders. Some churches are quite open while others are very closed. While I think you would be hard pressed to find a church that could be defined as liberal in the classic sense of the word, most Churches of Christ fall in the broad spectrum of conservative Christian churches in the United States. In fact, most members, even those in the most conservative COC are just everyday Christians trying to live their lives in a godly way.

But why would you call a Baptist minister to tell you about the Church of Christ? Would you call a Methodist minister to comment on the Catholic Church? If Nancy wanted to give her viewers some insight into Churches of Christ, why not call Milton Sewell, President of Freed-Hardeman University? He is in a position to provide insight into the broad majority of views in Churches of Christ in this region. Or why not ask Max Lucado, minister at Oak Hills Church. He was on the show the same night discussing Terry Shiavo's death last year. How difficult would it have been to find someone really qualified? My suspicion is that the producers have no interest in finding the real facts. Their goal is titillate and inflame their viewers with the most salacious details that they can find. Don't get me wrong, I don't fault Tom Rukala. He was speaking from his experience. The problem I have is with the producers of this show.

Personally, I have many friends who are members of other mainline religious groups. I accept them as brothers in Christ. I find it frustrating that these barriers to fellowship keep getting in the way of real unity on the Body of Christ. I'm not saying that we don't have real differences. We do. But those differences are made out to be much larger than they really are. I'm sure I'll be writing more on this later. For now, I think I'll change the channel.

14 Comments:

At 10:23 AM, Blogger Liquidoxology said...

Oh, the frustrating challenge of being only one part of Christ's body. I look forward to the day we will meet in heaven and realize that we really all were one body.
Anette

 
At 12:26 PM, Blogger Tom said...

Was Grace trying to conjure up an ecclesiastical motive or what? I don't watch CNN. Haven't for years.

I can only tell you of MY experience with the Church of Christ (I'm currently an American Baptist and we have our own problems).

I don't know the various conventions so forgive my ignorance. I only know instrumental and non-instrumental. The non-instrumental churches I have found more legalistic. I attended one in college that was close to a cult with their activites and tactics. That was almost 30 years ago. More recently, one of our deacons remarried (widower) a lady from the Church of Christ and has pretty much gotten him away from his church because she MUST have communion every week (our celebration is monthly.) I tried to talk to him months ago about the differences in their two belief systems but his lonliness won out over ecclesiastical concerns.

My experience with an instrumental church of Christ was positive. In fact I was baptized in a Church of Christ about a year after I trusted Christ.

 
At 12:41 PM, Blogger Joel Maners said...

Thanks for sharing Tom. As with any religious group, there are many different ebbs and flows within what we call the mainstream. For a more thorough treatment of what is happening in Churches of Christ today, you might find this link helpful.

http://www.gracecentered.com/what_is_happening_to_churches_of_Christ.htm

 
At 3:36 PM, Blogger Dana said...

Hi Joel,

I ended up on your blog from a guy name Toscano's blog. Anyway, my husband is a youth minister in the CoC. I just wanted to say that I appreciated what you had to say. I left a long comment on his page so I won't draw this one out. But, it's really nice to see people out there such as yourself.

PS: You don't happen to be at the church that just hired Kenneth Grizzell do you? We worked with him in PC Florida. Great guy!

In Him,

Dana Ellis

 
At 8:49 PM, Blogger Joel Maners said...

Thanks for the note Dana. I go to Skyline. Ken will be the preacher at Campbell Street. I hear that he is a tremendous guy. Everyone has good things to say about him. I'm looking forward to having he and his family in Jackson.

I'll check out your comments. Thanks for the compliments.You are very kind.

 
At 10:48 PM, Blogger Ivy, the Great and Powerful said...

Wow, thank you for posting this, Joel.

I know a few people that belong to COC, and most of them are pretty cool, maybe a little more strict than the Methodists, but pretty cool altogether.

But I knew one lady that was Church of Christ and she was just like this minister described. Ugh, she was nuts. The problem is, we should not let a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

It really sounds like they were basing their entire views of COC off some people like this crazy lady I knew.

 
At 11:36 PM, Blogger Ike said...

Well said, Joel.

As an ex-journalist, part of your frustration with the "lazy producers" stems from that very lack of a CoC structure you cite. No easy mark in the Rolodex.

I'll be following this from a PR perspective...

 
At 11:46 PM, Blogger Nate said...

There is a particular group outside the mainstream that this Baptist pastor is probably thinking about. One cultish group does go under the name "Church of Christ."

Sadly it's that Church of Christ group (mentioned in Joel's link as the Boston Movement, a group that the author there was not even consdering) that most people I know think of when they hear "Church of Christ."

My college roommate went to a mainline Church of Christ. When people asked him what church he went to back home he always said "A Church of Christ-- but NOT one of the screwy cult ones." That shows how often people he met associated the name "Church of Christ" with the word "cult."

I do see something insane about asking someone from one denomination or fellowship to describe another, though. For one thing, mistakes like this one happen.

 
At 11:56 PM, Blogger Joel Maners said...

Good point Nate. I didn't think of that. We normally refer to that group at the International Churches of Christ (ICOC) to avoid confusion. I guess we could have been confused with the LDS church as well. I've had people ask me if I was Mormon believe it or not.

BTW, Good Morning America called up Milton Sewell at Freed-Hardeman. At least someone has some sense I guess. Maybe NG needs to call the producers at ABC and get his number.

 
At 4:24 AM, Blogger Deb said...

Hey, Joel, I appreciate your post today, and also your previous posts. I was not aware of Nancy Grace skewering the Church of Christ until I read about it on the Blogs. (Thankfully, her show is not aired in the UK.) So all I've had to go on are the show's transcripts with their bad spellings. Coupled with the poor research, Nancy's producers should be subpoenaed! :)

I especially appreciate your last paragraph with regards to your 'other' friends. Satan just mainly wants to drive a sharp divisive wedge through any event that would tilt the scales towards disunity. Positive posts such as yours, plus the Christ-like attitudes of those faithful closely involved with Mary and Matthew Winkler, their children, and their families, will go far to make sure that does not happen.

Blessings and prayers!

 
At 7:38 PM, Blogger Cryptoreformer said...

Dear Ones,
Ugh, again. I will make a blanket statement as as ex-COC member and minister. The American religious group which uses the name" Church of Christ" is a cult at the worst and a sect at best.
It has nothing to offer the whole Body of Christ.
Give it a rest. The COC is graceless, without mnercy, and Christless.
To paraphrase Flannery O'Conner, it is just "The Church of Christ withour Christ".

Gary Cryptoreformer
ACU, 1969

 
At 8:31 PM, Blogger Jesse said...

Dear Cryptoreformer, as a member of the CofC for over 29 years, I want you to know, I love you. I know that all of mankind has been created in the image of God. I have never been part of a cult. Yes, I have attended some very strict congregations. But, I always knew it was because we were trying to help each other reach heaven. I'm also sure at times we seemed closed minded. I'm sure my sight was limited when I was a babe’s in Christ. Aren’t we all? Don’t we all have to learn to crawl before we walk? I’m sure every denomination has its faults. All must begin their journey as a baby, and should grow to maturity. It’s just a natural progression. Let’s not forget, all denominations are led by mere men. There was only one perfect man, and He died on the cross. Over the years, I have moved closer to Jesus which is a pattern; I believe for all of God's children to achieve and to press toward. Not as if we have obtained our goal, but that we are pressing on toward it. None of God’s children are perfect, only washed in the blood of the lamb. If we say were without sin, we are a liar and the truth is not in us.

Sir, I can't help but hear the hurt you must have suffered as an x-minister for the cofc. I hope you can accept my forgiveness on behave of God's people. More importantly, I hope you can accept God's forgiveness and serve him to your fullest. God wants the best for all of his children. He will not settle for any less. I know many more members’s of the cofc that welcome all of God's children, Baptist, Catholic, and Methodist, what ever label you want to place on them. God only makes Christians, and when one is a Christian, they belong to the same family. God has many members but all are part of the same body. Is the ear not part of the body because it doesn’t like the hand? Or the foot not part of the body, because it doesn’t like the nose? No they are all part of the same body. Unfortunately, many often mix worship styles with worship that must be conducted in Spirit and Truth. True Christian’s gather in corporate worship to praise, and honor a Holy God… Not to take from worship but to give worship. God is the “Action” of our worship. In our personal walk with Jesus, we offer our lives daily as a living sacrifice. But you know the problem with living sacrifices don’t you? They can crawl off the altar. Sometimes, we mess up, but we don’t give up. We seek forgiveness and continue to grow. May you find your peace with God and an acceptance from all of God’s children. Which I believe, includes many members of the cofc.

Jesse

 
At 8:52 PM, Blogger Joel Maners said...

Thanks for the comment Jesse. I appreciate your thoughts here.

 
At 1:44 PM, Blogger Jesse said...

Hi Joel,
Thanks for the opportunity to respond. I love your site. Keep up the great work.

Jesse Walker

 

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